What are our thoughts on neopronouns that can be taken as objectifying?

[Emberfrost12]

What are your thoughts on pronouns like it/its and thing/things for people? Would you choose to use them? If your friends used them, would you use them without question or try to avoid them? Just kind of wondering

[Emberfrost12]

Also please keep the debate constructive :)

[Emberfrost12]

@_Kai_, @TinyTurtles, @Equivalent Ways, @Leila_xx, @Olivia05?

[Olivia05]

29 minutes ago, Emberfrost12 said:

@_Kai_, @TinyTurtles, @Equivalent Ways, @Leila_xx, @Olivia05?

If my friends were using them then I would use them without question…

[-Leila-]

Not so sure. I’m so stupid I don’t understand haha

[_Kai_]

On 4/2/2023 at 4:21 PM, Emberfrost12 said:

What are your thoughts on pronouns like it/its and thing/things for people? Would you choose to use them? If your friends used them, would you use them without question or try to avoid them? Just kind of wondering

I'd 100% use Neopronouns if my friends wanted me to for them (For example I use Xe/Xem as 1 of my pronoun suggestions which are considered neopronouns)

[Emberfrost12]

2 hours ago, Leila_xx said:

Not so sure. I’m so stupid I don’t understand haha

Eh, not stupid :) Its kinda confusing for a lot of people

[Olivia05]

1 hour ago, Emberfrost12 said:

Eh, not stupid :) Its kinda confusing for a lot of people

Yeah I get that but I would use them without question tho even if I didn’t entirely understand it…

[Equivalent Ways]

Hi @Emberfrost12! Welcome back btw! I did not know this thread existed but I am here now :) and glad to be cuz this is a good question :D 

ok so basically… if my friends used them that would not be the soul reason I would, however I would be happy to join them if it was all fun and love. 
I am actually kinda lazy with pronouns :/ so to people I don’t really know or little children I refer to them like it or thing so I already do that lol~
i don’t like to treat ppl meanly tho 

[Emberfrost12]

Ok, I realized that it probably seems like I asked weather you’d respect someone’s pronouns. That wasn’t the point. I wanted to raise this discussion for other reasons, like the thing  about people who don’t know thinking you are actually objectifying the person you’re talking about, and about slave masters in the past referring to slaves as ‘it’ and people correlating the two. 

[_Kai_]

31 minutes ago, Emberfrost12 said:

Ok, I realized that it probably seems like I asked weather you’d respect someone’s pronouns. That wasn’t the point. I wanted to raise this discussion for other reasons, like the thing  about people who don’t know thinking you are actually objectifying the person you’re talking about, and about slave masters in the past referring to slaves as ‘it’ and people correlating the two. 

Oooo, like when someone misgenders another person then refers to them as an 'It'? Or are u meaning just in general objectifying that person because of their neopronouns/pronouns/personality?

[Emberfrost12]

4 minutes ago, _Kai_ said:

Oooo, like when someone misgenders another person then refers to them as an 'It'? Or are u meaning just in general objectifying that person because of their neopronouns/pronouns/personality?

All of the above

[_Kai_]

14 minutes ago, Emberfrost12 said:

All of the above

Ooo

[Emberfrost12]

1 minute ago, _Kai_ said:

Ooo

….Is it a more understandable conversation now?

[_Kai_]

9 minutes ago, Emberfrost12 said:

….Is it a more understandable conversation now?

Mhm! I had thought the original general idea for this topic was whether or not respecting/supporting neopronouns 

[Emberfrost12]

1 minute ago, _Kai_ said:

Mhm! I had thought the original general idea for this topic was whether or not respecting/supporting neopronouns 

Ye, took me a while to fix that, didn’t I

[_Kai_]

5 minutes ago, Emberfrost12 said:

Ye, took me a while to fix that, didn’t I

Honestly both ideas seem like they fit this topic 

[Ghost of Rain]

On 4/8/2023 at 4:37 PM, Emberfrost12 said:

Ok, I realized that it probably seems like I asked weather you’d respect someone’s pronouns. That wasn’t the point. I wanted to raise this discussion for other reasons, like the thing  about people who don’t know thinking you are actually objectifying the person you’re talking about, and about slave masters in the past referring to slaves as ‘it’ and people correlating the two. 

I don't currently have any friends who use it/its pronouns, but if I did and somebody thought I were objectifying them, it just takes a quick "it prefers those pronouns" to explain myself. If they continue to make it an issue, that's on them.